Nappa had the ability to wipe entire cities out with the flick of his wrist. King Vegeta is the king of the Saiyan race and the head of the royal family. Despite being regarded as a mid-class Saiyan warrior, he gave Piccolo and Goku the most challenging fight of their lives up until that point. Frieza's power level was 530,000, so if you compare 10,000 to that, anyone who had that power level doesn't stand a chance against Frieza's first form. As the ruler of the Saiyans, there's no question that King Vegeta would wipe the floor with Bardock at the time of his death. The only thing i hated is that King Vegeta was almost as powerful as Bardock. Also please sign your post. You can follow him on Instagram @yungvelly. King Vegeta was even stated to be stronger... Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. After achie… If she and Bardock ever sparred, her unpredictable, reckless style of fighting would overwhelm him, and he'd be left with no choice but to bust out his Final Spirit Cannon. Though considered as low-class, Bardock is said to have to power level of 10,000 and was close to surpassing the power of King Vegeta himself. According to the Japanese dub (the only one that should be considered), Bardock's power level is near 10.000 - since Vegeta is the king, he must be above that. Thats why they killed Raditz you cant have strategy and think you can win when someone is stronger unless one of your techniques or skills surpasses them. Also he is a strong warrior he was the strongest Saiyan he lost to Frieza because he is so much stronger then them. If you watched the first few episodes of DBZ then you can tell that power levels change a lot, courtesy of Raditz. It shows the he was the actual first Super Saiyan, the beginning of the legend! whereas he had to personally deal with king vegeta. What I mean by normal circumstance is whether or not Bardock got furious. If he was weekly than Bardock he not to be King!All simple! Stop cursing its against the rules of the wiki. As the son of King Vegeta, Vegeta was one of Universe 7's strongest Saiyans even in his youth's early days. Is this hypothetical situation before Bardock went back in time? In Age 737, shortly before attempting to openly rebel against Frieza, King Vegeta orders newborn Broly to be executed due to his extremely high power level of 10,000, as this amount of power was seen as a possible threat to the royal Saiyan family. The Saiyans were never going to even get close to Ginyu's PL; That is a dub line. King Vegetas was stated to be above that. So Bardock's Power Level was 10,000 King Vegeta's was somewhere above 10,000 probably 15,000. But whether it's Goten, Trunks, or Gotenks doing the fighting, Bardock would lose every single time. It depends. For what it's worth, Nappa was also a noble and he wasn't above 4000! did they need talking every 5 seconds? At the time Planet Vegeta still existed, Bardock was in the upper ranks as far as low-class warriors can go. Lssj4 16:13, June 21, 2011 (UTC). I don't recall King Vegeta's power level to be explicitly stated, but I would assume stronger than Bardock because he's King. Vegeta used his charisma to convince the Saiyans to take the planet from the Tuffles as a scheme to obtain power and technology for himself. Dragon Ball: 10 Saiyans Stronger Than Bardock, Dragon Ball: 10 Best Filler Episodes (That Should Be Canon). Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Vegeta: 12,000. its basically fanfiction with the amount of garbage funi pulled out of their asses. Japanese version is the same. my facts are facts. JordanTH 15:57, June 14, 2011 (UTC), But Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon power level was above 1,200 it was like 1,308 or something like that. no it wasnt. Base Edit. Because he's appeared in so much non-canon material outside of the main series, it can be not easy to get a solid grasp of his actual powerーhowever. Kakarot: 2. It's also stated in a guidebook that King Vegeta was the strongest Saiyan when Planet Vegeta was destroyed so I'd give him a BP of 13,000. The line that Bardock's gonna surpass King Vegeta if he keeps this up could have just been a figure of speech or exaggeration to show how rapidly he was increasing in power. King Vegeta was able to hold his position for so long unchallenged because he was the strongest Saiyan at the time of his rule, which is why his son already possessed an insane power level at such a young age. Did you watch the jap one at all? Initially, Goku struggled to defeat normal Earthlings like Yamcha, Master Roshi, and Tien, all characters that Bardock would defeat without even trying. the english dub is fake. When he isn't writing for CBR, Lavell is usually playing videogames, catching up on interesting anime, or writing novels. King Vegeta led a genocidal camp… His power level is stated to be around 10,000. Since Cabba was stronger than Bardock, there's no question that Caulifla is as well. they dont care about some random foreign dub. how crappy is that? A list of power levels from Weekly Jump #31, 1989. Paragus would probably be the first to go since Bardock and King Vegeta's power level is near 10,000 and his is obviously lower( I know this Because King vegeta almost killed him before on Planet vegeta in the 1st Brolli movie) lol. It seems that Bardock is mostly in charge when it comes to personality, but mentally King Vegeta is in charge. my opinion isnt fact. In Dragon Ball Z: Bardock - The Father of Goku, the doctors working on Bardock after his injury sustained on Planet Kanassa state that Bardock's power level is nearing 10,000 and Sounds right. [[Category:{{{1}}}|Bardock vs King Vegeta - who is stronger?]]. --DARK 17:57, June 14, 2011 (UTC). its not fine. As a child, Broly was born with such a high power level that his mere existence served as a threat to King Vegeta's rule. Just like Yamcha's stronger than Super Buu. While their Super Saiyan transformations wouldn't hold a candle to Goku's, Vegeta's, or even Cabba's, they'd be more than a match for a low-class Saiyan warrior who couldn't even defeat Frieza at his weakest. He also has a large crest on the seat of his throne. Lssj4 11:01, June 14, 2011 (UTC). it proves nothing. Bardock: 10,500. --DARK 18:05, June 30, 2011 (UTC). Howev… Until you provide a TRUE SOURCE of Akira Toriyama or Toei Animation stating that or FUNimation admitting that their dub is inaccurate and wrong. Like any father, Bardock wanted the best for his sons. Lssj4 16:01, June 21, 2011 (UTC), When Bardock was in the tank, the doctors said his power level was getting close to Vegeta's when they said, "...he might even surpass King Vegeta!" Howl – One of Great Ape King Vegeta's Blast 1 in Budokai Tenkaichi 3. Lssj4 16:57, June 14, 2011 (UTC), Krillin uses strategy to win most of his battles! Frieza:520.000(I am certain this was stated in the Manga and Daiz or something close to this) so there you have it. hell they add talking when there was SILENCE in the japanese dub. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. In a special what-if scenario entitled Episode of Bardock, he ended up becoming the first Super Saiyan. I watch whatever dub or sub I want. King Vegeta would die in a single punch. The Bardock special is canon if you want it to be. bardock was a low class who almost died a whole lot. he ended up becoming the first Super Saiyan. the english dub is completely bastardised and wrong. King Vegeta's power level was 10,000-ish (I'm guessing it's not THAT high ((as in 15,000)) yet). Frieza wasn't impressed by Bardock and his team. the portugese dub also got everything wrong. do not use the english dub as evidence. An English major from the University of Virginia and an active member in New York's television scene, he enjoys meeting people who care about telling good, tasteful stories. not equal to it. Frieza's power level was 530,000, so if you compare 10,000 to that, anyone who had that power level doesn't stand a chance against Frieza's first form. It can be difficult to get a solid grasp of Bardock's powerーhowever, fans can gauge who is stronger than him by pitting him against other characters. 2,822,147,055 282,214.7055x Base,According To Beat's scans on him in a Special God Mission Trailer for Dragon Ball Heroes. Oh yeah, Bardock's stronger than King Vegeta. King Vegeta couldn't detect his power level on the scouter, and assumed he had been killed. Case closed. You go by the jap I go by the english so we dont agree with each other is fine. Strategy wont matter if you have a higher power level. He wears the Vegeta Royal Family Crest on the left side of his armor, as did Prince Vegeta as a child. However, with strategy and Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon, they were able to win. the english translators didnt get one single line right or translated even close to the original source material. Whoever keeps making my forum worse than it is now stop it or I will tell my parents. But dont try to make your opinion as fact. King Vegeta, Bardock and a group of Saiyans were in front of Frieza's spaceship fighting off boards of Frieza's foot soldiers before Bardock broke free and shouted ... Now for power levels! Bardock's Final Spirit Cannon just doesn't come close to that. He tried to warned everyone but they wouldn't Belize him. Bardock wouldve been killed in one punch to. He was also the commanding hero of theSaiyan Army, and led his people to victory in theSaiyan-Tuffle war, in which the planet was renamed in his honor. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission!! watch the english dub then watch japanese dub. Goten and Trunks are rarely seen tackling an enemy independently, choosing to fuse into Gotenks whenever they're presented with a challenge. When the Saiyans emigrated to Planet Plant and came to coexist with the native Tuffles, a race of dwarfish people with superior technology, Vegeta saw a chance to gain power. and he did nothing but get killed by frieza. RELATED: Dragon Ball: 10 Best Filler Episodes (That Should Be Canon). The techniques King … Due to this, Bardock was able to defeat Dodoria's elite soldiers and despite being heavily wounded, also defeated hundreds of Frieza's own troops as well. and if you dont care about the japanese version then get out of this fanbase. In the saiyan saga Vegeta was like 18,000. G_O_G_E_T_A. Sure, if he went up against Frieza's Supernova, he'd easily be brushed aside as well, but his close association with Vegeta showed that he was no pushover. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. the scientists said he was almost 10 000. I ciould say,what King Vegeta WAS stronger than Bardock,but then he wanted to stop Freeza from destroyng the Vegeta planet,he was stronger than him.I mean serously,Freeza's solders had 1.500-3.000 power levels,and Bardock just beaten all his troops(something like 1.000-2.000 Freeza's troops).Could what do King vegeta?I do not think so.And bardocks last attack might have 20.000-30.000 power level... Vegeta killed the majority of Frieza's elite guards. Bardocks was 10,000. I place more merit on Bardock, though, because he has more battle experience of late, whereas King Vegeta sat on his butt the last few years of his life after winning the War vs the Tuffles. Power levels are really inaccurate, so you can't just compare King Vegeta and Bardock's power level. Later, Bardock is seen defeating Toobi and Cabira, two soldiers of Chilled's army with ease. King Vegeta's power was surpassed by Vegeta when he was a kid, and I highly doubt that Kid Vegeta didn't increase his strength that much from as a kid to a guy in his early 30s. King Vegeta's power level is unknown, as it was never actually stated. ~Son Goshen~, 1. Who knows for sure.... pretty sure he was weaker than Vegeta. Have you not seen the special? really? NEXT: Dragon Ball Z: 10 Ways The Movies Contradict The Canon. He somehow travels back in time after being hit by the blast, and ends up fighting Frieza's ancestor. Kakarot, a low-class warrior sent to another planet because of his pitiful initial power... Dragon Ball Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. So you only enforced what I said in my previous post. This not only shed some more light on the higher potential present in the Saiyans of Universe 6, but it also explained why it was so easy for Cabba to transform into a Super Saiyan when someone like Bardock was unable to draw on this power at the moment he needed it most. Bardock would win becuase he was the only one who stood up the Freiza. RELATED: Dragon Ball: Every Non-Canon Android In The Franchise. He further surpassed Bardock during his training en route to Namek, where unbeknownst to him, he became strong enough to last a few rounds with Frieza in his Final Form. Power Levels: no it wasnt. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions King Vegeta(ベジータ王,Bejīta Ō) was the king of allSaiyans and the father ofVegetaandTarble. Lssj4 11:06, June 14, 2011 (UTC), I say that alot don't I lol.Supreme Gohan 09:37, June 14, 2011 (UTC), Realize King Vegeta is the King of Saiyans. Bardock was just a Low-Class Warrior who got a zenkai and they said if he keeps this up he will be almost as strong as King Vegeta, no they never ever said that. but hes the king for a reason. At that point in the story, Vegeta's base form was so strong that he was able to obliterate someone as strong as Captain Ginyu with just one attack, and could even go hand-to-hand with Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks without the need to transform (as shown when Copy Vegeta went up against the young fused warrior). Also, who is the strongest Saiyan in the end of Dragon Ball Z? While Bardock couldn't even handle Frieza in his First Form, Gohan was not only able to pressure Frieza's Third Form as a young child but went toe-to-toe with his Final Form for a brief moment, powering up and smacking Frieza around as though he were the Super Saiyan! ever. It is likely that Bardock was the most powerful lower-class Saiyan soldier of his time. After he demonstrated his instinctive capability for battle and ever-increasing power that enabled him to keep up with god-level warriors, there's no question that he's a lot stronger than Bardock, and probably was for most of his life. That's a pretty big gap, I know lol. I wont believe you. Gohan always possessed a latent, hidden power that was teased throughout Dragon Ball Z, but the moment he would've surpassed Bardock in terms of power most likely would've occurred sometime during the Namek Saga. king vegeta and prince vegeta were special saiyans with alot of raw potential. How much stronger? Even before Cabba knew how to transform into a Super Saiyan, he was already leagues above Bardock. Both King Vegeta and Bardock had a power level of ten thousand in their base forms, but the fusion multiplied their power to over a million, proving that if they were much stronger they could become much more powerful when fused as one. If we take that, which is offiial information, into account, then there's no discussion at all. King Vegeta was strong but against first form frieza...well he was 4 times weaker than nail. Raditz: 490. Making him stronger discussion closed.Lssj4 12:11, June 14, 2011 (UTC), I disagree. At this point in the story, Goku has far surpassed Bardock, becoming the first Super Saiyan God in centuries. Bardock. I remember Vegeta saying that he was stronger than his father even as a child but that could have been hyperbole as well. Bardock might have been strong enough to lead his own fighting force, but apparently, he wasn't strong enough to accompany Vegeta and Nappa on missions. King vegeta power vs bardock exp is what is comes down to. Unfortunately for him, Caulifla would be able to deflect his strongest move without even trying. After his people were annexed byFrieza'sFrieza Force, he had no choice but to pledge allegiance, but still kept power over his people. that was a dub line and they dont count. i dont think its innaccurate. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission!!! Bardock has a pretty good chance of beating Vegeta by skill, since Bardock is really strategic when it comes to fighting (read that somewhere... don't remember where...) ~Son Goshen~, No there not. On Dragon Ball - General, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "King Vegeta vs. Bardock" - Page 3. Bardock.He could atleast face Frieza King Vegeta would die fighting Frieza's men and vegeta surpassed his on father. Dragon Ball Minus Edit. It was stated that Bardock was ALMOST as strong as King Vegeta not vice versa, but he wasnt not yet. Nappa: 6,500. That was the last time Bardock healed, eliminating any chance of another Zenkai, so he was just under Vegeta by the time he fought Frieza (probably less, since he'd gotten destroyed by Dodoria earlier). i KNOW. Fans can gauge who is stronger than him by pitting him against other characters. theres no doubt bardock could not face up to frieza. Bardock, the father of Goku, not only gave birth to one of the strongest Saiyan warriors that ever lived, but he also deserves all the credit for sending Goku to Earth minutes before Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta. all the scientists say in the japanese version is that bardock is "near 10 000" meaning he never surpassed 10 000. His name, like his son's, is a pun on "vegetable". After struggling to defeat Raditz before that, he later gained enough power to hold his own against Vegeta and handle powerful techniques like the Spirit Bomb and Kaio-ken, the latter crippling a Saiyan elite like Nappa. King Vegeta was able to hold his position for so long unchallenged because he was the strongest Saiyan at the time of his rule, which is why his son already possessed an insane power level at such a young age. A one-stop shop for all things video games. Vegeta and his elite all fought Frieza. not beyond it. Who are you to say the english dub is fake? he was statated as below 10 000. not around it. While fans will always celebrate Saiyans like Gohan, Vegeta, and Goku for their contributions in defending Earth, several other Saiyans have played an important role in Dragon Ball's story as well. 1. No one cares if you think its inaccurate or not.Lssj4. King Vegeta vs. Bardock Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. not one line is translated correctly. and bardock wouldnt? However, the point at which he surpassed Bardock for good undoubtedly occurred during his training with King Kai. Have you guys never watched the new Bardock special? no he first asked everyone else to help him. Just some random fan who does'nt like the english dub so they call it fake. He seemed proud to know this his eldest son had been chosen to go on a mission alongside Vegeta, who definitely didn't have Saiyan riffraff hanging around him. Zorn: 6,000. no he wasnt. bardock has never been compared to king vegeta, only that bardock is "almost 10 000". There's no question that Nappa was stronger than Bardock. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! --DARK 16:12, June 30, 2011 (UTC), King Vegeta is stronger, but if Bardock wouldn't have been stubborn and he healed again Bardock would be stronger. So Bardock's Power Level was 10,000 King Vegeta's was somewhere above 10,000 probably 15,000. Once they'd get close to the Ginyu force's level of power he could start considering disposing of them. dub line. its the original, the source, the real dbz as it should be watched. Raditz was considerably stronger then both Goku and Piccolo, after all. Since he was a child when he went past his father I would say that King Vegeta’s power level was around the late 12,000/13,000-to possibly 14,000. If Bardock were threatening to surpass him, King Vegeta probably would have done away with him like he did Broly. 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